Prenuptial Agreement Form

Sadly, I thought my original capital was protected because I signed one in my second marriage. Now, after a year and a half divorce in South Africa where I am a foreigner not allowed to work, my Ex has got away with spending every cent there was in the marriage, including off shore savings. Divorces are long and the law is slow, so while I spend thousands in lawyers doing summons, letters and so on, he had all the time to indulge himself and his girlfriend with the marriage money. Does the court care about it? No. Would he be forced to return the money when we finally get to court? No. He knew this. So he spent it all in order to say that he has no money in this marriage for a settlement, that there was no accrual; not even money to pay my original capital without interest. At the same time, the calculation of accrual is not a straight forward 50/50… long to explain, but it is utterly unfair. So I have been forced to sell my jewelery, (some other “got” stolen, I eas not even allowed to change the locks of the house because the house is also in his name. So he walked in whenever he felt like, eventhough he was living with another woman. The only money salvage is in the house I live, but it is also in his name. Not he is pretending fo be bankrupt eventhough he has a “director” role in a multinational overseas. He is keeping all the money of shore, hidden. And he is threatening to stop the bond payment and threatened with foreclosure of the house, losing our roof and the capital invested in the same. So did the prenup helped? Nope. Has the law protected me after spending money I dont have in lawyers, nope either. In my experience the bread winner gets away with all the advantage, the system is insuficient. Note: I am in southafrica because we were expats in Africa, he was the main bread winner and we had to pay maintenance for his first children, so I supported him climbing the corporate ladder. So I came as an expat to his home country. And as part of his divorce startegy he denied me the exit of this country but mot allowing my child to leave this was the perfect scenario for him to bully me financially and emotionally. Again, the lawyers, apparently some of the best in town, do not care, they only make money. So he left for a better job to another country and I am still stranded i. His country because of my child who doesnt even have a passport because he has to be present to get her one. Yep, it is a nightmare! Fucked up system indeed!So women, keep hidden savings where ever you can, sign prenuptial but do no rely on them. Specially if you are an expat you are a at a complete disadvantage. Get to know women like me who are going through hell, listen to their situation, learn and give them your real support! dont be naive. Pretending that this kind of stories are rare doesn't help anyone, when you are hit by this tragedy, you learn that is very common. You dont know anyone until you divorce them!

NOOOOOOO. You are talking to a military romance scammer. I received an email from the US Army that directly answers your question that is pasted below please keep reading.I believe you are the victim of a military Romance Scam whereas the person you are talking to is a foreign national posing as an American Soldier claiming to be stationed overseas on a peacekeeping mission. That's the key to the scam they always claim to be on a peacekeeping mission.Part of their scam is saying that they have no access to their money that their mission is highly dangerous.If your boyfriend girlfriend/future husband/wife is asking you to do the following or has exhibited this behavior, it is a most likely a scam:Moves to private messaging site immediately after meeting you on Facebook or SnapChat or Instagram or some dating or social media site. Often times they delete the site you met them on right after they asked you to move to a more private messaging siteProfesses love to you very quickly & seems to quote poems and song lyrics along with using their own sort of broken language, as they profess their love and devotion quickly. They also showed concern for your health and love for your family.Promises marriage as soon as he/she gets to state for leave that they asked you to pay for.They Requests money (wire transfers) and Amazon, iTune ,Verizon, etc gift cards, for medicine, religious practices, and leaves to come home, internet access, complete job assignments, help sick friend, get him out of trouble, or anything that sounds fishy.The military does provide all the soldier needs including food medical Care and transportation for leave. Trust me, I lived it, you are probably being scammed. I am just trying to show you examples that you are most likely being connned.Below is an email response I received after I sent an inquiry to the US government when I discovered I was scammed. I received this wonderful response back with lots of useful links on how to find and report your scammer. And how to learn more about Romance Scams.Right now you can also copy the picture he gave you and do a google image search and you will hopefully see the pictures of the real person he is impersonating. this doesn't always work and take some digging. if you find the real person you can direct message them and alert them that their image is being used for scamming.Good Luck to you and I'm sorry this may be happening to you. please continue reading the government response I received below it's very informative.   You have contacted an email that is monitored by the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command. Unfortunately, this is a common concern. We assure you there is never any reason to send money to anyone claiming to be a Soldier online. If you have only spoken with this person online, it is likely they are not a U.S. Soldier at all. If this is a suspected imposter social media profile, we urge you to report it to that platform as soon as possible. Please continue reading for more resources and answers to other frequently asked questions:  How to report an imposter Facebook profile: Caution-https://www.facebook.com/help/16... < Caution-https://www.facebook.com/help/16... >   Answers to frequently asked questions:  - Soldiers and their loved ones are not charged money so that the Soldier can go on leave.  - Soldiers are not charged money for secure communications or leave.  - Soldiers do not need permission to get married.  - Soldiers emails are in this format: john.doe.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto: john.doe.mil@mail.mil > anything ending in .us or .com is not an official email account.  - Soldiers have medical insurance, which pays for their medical costs when treated at civilian health care facilities worldwide – family and friends do not need to pay their medical expenses.  - Military aircraft are not used to transport Privately Owned Vehicles.  - Army financial offices are not used to help Soldiers buy or sell items of any kind.  - Soldiers deployed to Combat Zones do not need to solicit money from the public to feed or house themselves or their troops.  - Deployed Soldiers do not find large unclaimed sums of money and need your help to get that money out of the country.  Anyone who tells you one of the above-listed conditions/circumstances is true is likely posing as a Soldier and trying to steal money from you.  We would urge you to immediately cease all contact with this individual.  For more information on avoiding online scams and to report this crime, please see the following sites and articles:   This article may help clarify some of the tricks social media scammers try to use to take advantage of people: Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/61432/< Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/61432/>   CID advises vigilance against 'romance scams,' scammers impersonating Soldiers  Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/180749 < Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/180749 >   FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center: Caution-http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx< Caution-http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx>   U.S. Army investigators warn public against romance scams: Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/130...< Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/130...>   DOD warns troops, families to be cybercrime smart -Caution-http://www.army.mil/article/1450...< Caution-http://www.army.mil/article/1450...>   Use caution with social networking  Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/146...< Caution-https://www.army.mil/article/146...>    Please see our frequently asked questions section under scams and legal issues. Caution-http://www.army.mil/faq/ < Caution-http://www.army.mil/faq/ > or visit Caution-http://www.cid.army.mil/ < Caution-http://www.cid.army.mil/ >.  The challenge with most scams is determining if an individual is a legitimate member of the US Army. Based on the Privacy Act of 1974, we cannot provide this information. If concerned about a scam you may contact the Better Business Bureau (if it involves a solicitation for money), or local law enforcement. If you're involved in a Facebook or dating site scam, you are free to contact us direct; (571) 305-4056.   If you have a social security number, you can find information about Soldiers online at Caution-https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/sc... < Caution-https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/sc... > . While this is a free search, it does not help you locate a retiree, but it can tell you if the Soldier is active duty or not.  If more information is needed such as current duty station or location, you can contact the Commander Soldier's Records Data Center (SRDC) by phone or mail and they will help you locate individuals on active duty only, not retirees. There is a fee of $3.50 for businesses to use this service. The check or money order must be made out to the U.S. Treasury. It is not refundable. The address is:  Commander Soldier's Records Data Center (SRDC) 8899 East 56th Street Indianapolis, IN 46249-5301 Phone: 1-866-771-6357  In addition, it is not possible to remove social networking site profiles without legitimate proof of identity theft or a scam. If you suspect fraud on this site, take a screenshot of any advances for money or impersonations and report the account on the social networking platform immediately.  Please submit all information you have on this incident to Caution-www.ic3.gov < Caution-http://www.ic3.gov > (FBI website, Internet Criminal Complaint Center), immediately stop contact with the scammer (you are potentially providing them more information which can be used to scam you), and learn how to protect yourself against these scams at Caution-http://www.ftc.gov < Caution-http://www.ftc.gov > (Federal Trade Commission's website)

I’d take a copy of the marriage license, and somewhere it would reference some state law or statue, about the dissolution of the marriage and how things would proceed from there. I’d get 2 copies of that. And I’d place them on a table and have my soon to be married look at it and explain how this would be fair to both of us, and I’d do the same.This is the state mandated pre nup that everyone tends to ignore is actually already in place. If both of you can decide, with open minds that this is fair, leave it as is. If you can both see where it is not fair, the state allows you to modify it to be fair to both parties. If you both can not agree that it is fair, or it is not fair, you may want to reconsider if you are well matched to each other.Best wishes.

A prenup says two things:1. I think we might divorce.2. If we divorce, I think you might want more of my money than I'm willing to give you.Someone who has idealistic, romantic views of love and marriage doesn't like #1. When you've agreed to marry someone and you're planning the wedding and looking forward to a lifetime of happiness together, you might know intellectually that divorce is possible, but your heart tells you that won't happen. A romantic also wants to know that their partner is caught up in these passionate feelings and deep, abiding faith in them. Asking for a prenup destroys the illusion. So if you're marrying someone who's dreamy and romantic, you should assume they'll be hurt when you ask them to think about the possibility of divorce.I think women are probably more likely than men to have idealistic views about love and marriage. I also think wealthy people are much, much less likely to have idealistic views about the financial and legal aspects of marriage. You don't get to be wealthy and you don't stay wealthy if you make financial decisions based on your heart.As for #2, sometimes people ask for a prenup because they imagine their partner becoming vindictive and greedy during a divorce. That makes some sense, considering how often divorces are sour, hateful affairs. But who wants to acknowledge that they might go nuts and try to hurt their partner out of spite when things don't work out? It's a pretty unflattering suggestion.Also, sometimes wealthy people ask for a really shitty prenup. "Fuck you, you get nothing" is not a prenup that many people will sign. Not because they're horribly greedy, but because they genuinely believe that's not fair. Especially if they end up being, say, the primary provider of childcare, which is usually the case for a woman even if she also works full time. Remember how dudes are always saying women aren't really paid less than men -- women just make decisions that hold them back professionally? One of those decisions is prioritizing family time over career. It carries a huge opportunity cost. Is it reasonable to expect some consideration for that opportunity cost? Depends who you ask, but I don't think it's insane, evil, and greedy to want it.Finally, how do you handle the prenup? Either the wealthy person writes it and presents it as a fait accompli, take it or leave it, or it's a negotiation. What's the number one cause of marital strife? Money. Do you really want to start arguing about money before you even walk down the aisle? Most people don't.I would probably be willing to do a prenup if I married someone wealthy, but I'm notoriously unromantic about marriage. It's a legal and social institution, not a spiritual union of perfectly matched hearts. I would, however, demand a prenup that seemed fair to both of us. I don't want your millions, but if I make financial sacrifices to raise your kids, you're damn right you're paying child support and alimony.

It’s kinda hard to get one of those thrown out of court when I’m assuming both parties read them and signed them. Nobody twisted your arms to sign them. What makes people mad about prenups is that a lot of people don’t read through them and consult an attorney so that they could fully understand what they are signing or have some input in it before signing it. Then if divorce comes, and they didn’t read or understand the prenups, that’s when they start getting hysterical that they may or may not be getting what they expected. My aunt handled divorce cases with prenups and you’d be surprised at how many bimbos out there didn’t read, fully understand, or seek legal council before and after signing it, yet the very same idiots had the nerve to get mad at her, the judge, or both because they were careless in signing away their rights before saying “I do”.

Find a lawyer who specializes in "family law" in the state where you live.  Your future spouse will have to hire a lawyer as well, so keep that in mind.  Generally speaking, lawyers who work for larger firms are a safer bet than lawyers who work for smaller firms, but there are plenty of exceptions to that rule.  If I were on the market for a lawyer, I would ask my attorney friends who live in the same jurisdiction for recommendations.

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